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Capitalism Doesn't Work by ztk2006 Capitalism Doesn't Work by ztk2006
A submission for a working group of our local occupy movement that puts out monthly posters.
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alfie532 Featured By Owner Edited 2 days ago  New Deviant
capitilism isn`t perefct but neither is any goverment but at least it works beter than communism 
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TallisKeeton Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2015
Hey :) What about this - the ppl from the debt houses would help with restorations and equipments of these vacant homes for those of your neighbours who do not have homes - and becouse of such great help for the state and for local society they would get elimination of thier debts? What say you? If I was politician I would like to see it done.
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
It always did work
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AdmiralAkbar1 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2014
And do you have a better system in mind?
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:iconcochegara:
Cochegara Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2015
Yeap, it is socialism and planned economy. You know, with firefighting service, mass levee building, shelter at public cost.
All of that pretty expensive, so you should nationalize your banking system, mineral resources, and defense industry. I believe military won't hold anything against their emancipation from merchants of death.
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AdmiralAkbar1 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2015
Except none of that shit will ever fly in any capitalist country today.

> with firefighting service, mass levee building, shelter at public cost

This already exists in most western societies, all of whom are capitalist.

> so you should nationalize your banking system, mineral resources, and defense industry.

Yes, let's try and take all the money, resources, and guns from the people who manage the supply of money, resources, and guns. No way this will backfire whatsoever. Besides, almost all of western society supports capitalism in some way, shape, or form (with you being an obvious exception). As a system, it relies on the natural desire of humans to compete for resources. Meanwhile, almost everything else (Communism, anarchism, even trickle-down economics) requires that humans will all just join hands and start singing Kumbaya, which they won't. And considering the track record of communism on a large scale, I doubt many people would comply.

> I beleive military won't hold anything against their emancipation from merchants of death.

You do know that the US military is composed entirely of patriotic volunteers who fully know that they're being trained to kill, right?
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Cochegara Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2015
Proletarium are wage you with money, guns and resources, not the bankers and oligarchs. Western countries are socialistic states with planned economy, which is populated mostly with leftists of all sorts, that's why you're richer than right-winged Russia, or ultra-right Africa - because you want to be wealthy, which means to be left.
US army is the private security organization, which employers are mostly immigrants who hate amerifats, but still if somebody will let them use military doctrine wrote by them, not by oligarchs, he will became their fuhrer.
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AdmiralAkbar1 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2015
I honestly can't understand half of what you're saying. "Proletarium are wage you with money, guns and resources"?
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:iconcochegara:
Cochegara Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2015
Paper and all the goods, which makes paper valuable, produced by hands.
Office is non-producing.
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AdmiralAkbar1 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2015
Offices produce and manage information, a vital structure in any functioning society.

I still don't understand what your message is.
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Cochegara Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015
Meh, proletarium can easily manage information themselves
youtu.be/Sug7bWxTuSo
youtu.be/rgcdtOcfqfc?t=58m36s
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DigiquillDraws Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2014  Hobbyist
These problems are happening because politicians are introducing socialist principles into an otherwise Capitalist Economy. It's mixing oil with water of course it's not working.
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Kevin2097 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Mr.peabody is rich and have companies
but also have a adoptive son and I bet mr.peabody
is a genourus dog, is he fine?

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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
It works better than Socialism and Anarchy. Or Socialist-Anarchism. Or whatever the fuck you're about.
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fourofclubs Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2014
I think capitalism works just fine.
Capitalism just could not care less about the lives of the hungry people of the world, the empty houses and homeless people.
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Kevin2097 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Wha about Child cruelty?
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Emilion-3 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Going to facebook.
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Exodvs Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
Tell that to Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia and New Zealand.
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Cochegara Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2015
New Zealand, Australia and Singapore are socialistic.
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BlameThe1st Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Those empty homes you can blame on our government-created housing bubble, which only occured because government forced banks to lend loans to people to buy houses they could not afford, and it promised to soak up all the bad loans through Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The end result is plenty of homeless people and peopleless homes.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Amen, brother.
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MornofVivec Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014
Well, the banks are partially at fault as well. Didn't they bet against their own shitty mortgages?
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mineralz4Dream Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
You need to have brain damage to produce such a poster. Deviantart is an ideologically poisonnous place.
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MayoPencil Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Hey, what do you know! The amount of people starving in the world is actually so high it's uncountable! Capitalism, the symbol of freedom!
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Kevin2097 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Fascist!
you guys only care about youselves!
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Valkaneer Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2013  Professional Writer
God, this is so right.
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BraboAnarcho Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013
Good poster!
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
Do you understand that of those 18 million people around the world who die from poverty-related causes, very few of them actually live in capitalist countries? For instance, I'd like you to try to find out how many of those dying poor people live in North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and other countries that have extreme disdain for capitalism.
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Cochegara Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2015
Dying from obesity?
Also Africa, India and Middle East are capitalistic.
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Kevin2097 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
North Korea is a little good and bad.
cuba is just fine.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014
Are you kidding? Going to either country is like stepping into a time machine and traveling back to the mid-20th century. They simply haven't developed at all ever since they went communist.
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Kevin2097 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Ok?
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ztk2006 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually, most of the countries with the highest rates of starvation have capitalist economies. Of the countries with the highest rates of starvation, all 10 are capitalist. Most are in sub-saharan Africa. North Korea is missing from the lists - likely because the statistics are censored. North Korea, however, isn't communist in the sense of ordinary people having democratic control over the distribution of resources and over their day to day work. North Korea can be seen as an extreme form of capitalism - the entire country run as one large corporation, with no democratic control from below.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
See, now you're just making things up, and that's not okay. Very few Sub-Saharan Africa nations have much capitalism at all: [link]

For instance, let's take a closer look at the poverty-ridden Republic of Congo: [link]
"Despite some progress, the regulatory environment still imposes significant burdens on entrepreneurs. Launching a company takes more than 100 days. With development of a modern labor market lagging, the informal sector is the source of most employment. The prices of goods and services are affected by state ownership and subsidization of the public sector."

Or Zimbabwe: [link]
"When it became independent in 1965, Zimbabwe enjoyed a diversified economy, a well-developed infrastructure, and an advanced financial sector. It is now one of Africa’s poorest countries. Robert Mugabe became prime minister in 1980 and president in 1987."
"The authoritarian executive branch strongly influences the judiciary and openly challenges court outcomes. Expropriation is common. The government’s land reform program, characterized by chaos and violence, has badly damaged the commercial farming sector, turning Zimbabwe into a net importer of food products. Corruption, encouraged by government officials at all levels, remains pervasive."
"The overall regulatory environment is opaque. Starting a business takes nine procedures and 90 days in comparison to the world averages of seven procedures and 30 days. Completing licensing requirements costs over 40 times the level of average annual income. The formal labor market is not functioning, and the informal sector continues to be the source of employment. Monetary stability has been fragile in light of the previous hyperinflation."
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ztk2006 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Can you give me an example of a capitalist country where the economy was not created through the force and violence of the state? The examples you give are capitalist countries if the United States is a capitalist country. The capitalist class in the United States was enriched through the murderous expropriation of the North American continent, the murderous expropriation of land and resources from Latin America, Africa, and elsewhere, the enslavement of African and Native American people, the state repression of the migrant working classes, the expropriation of the labor power of women to whom no wages are paid despite their crucial role in social reproduction... Land ownership and property distribution around the world are created primarily through murderous state power used in the interests of the capitalist class. Capitalism is characterized primarily by private ownership of the means of production rather than common ownership - the examples you give are capitalist countries despite the existence of regulation and occasional state violence used against, rather than for, property owners.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013
So you think private property rights are evil? Then allow me to prove you completely and utterly wrong: [link]
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ztk2006 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Your statistics, if they are worth anything, demonstrate that private property rights are even more destructive when they are consolidated into the hands of authoritarian states. I don't believe in state property rights any more than the property rights of private small-time tyrants. Further, capitalist private property rights are hypocritical, valuing only rights that are traded for money and legitimated by a state. Most of the property capitalists extract wealth through is stolen property. Environmental and social costs are externalized - I am forced to pay taxes to clean the water that is polluted by corporations. I am forced to pay taxes to build and maintain the prisons and police forces that exist mostly to protect the property rights of the wealthy. Privilege and property are handed out on the basis of birth, skin color, gender, sexuality - who I was born to determines the outcomes of my life far more than my own efforts. If you believe otherwise you are a religious fanatic, not a critical thinker. No - this is not an ethical system. It is high time for a new property rights - the right of all to the means to live a happy life. The right of all to be free to do as they will, and have access to the wealth of the world, provided they do not infringe upon the rights of others.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013
You've got it completely wrong. My statistics show that countries that don't protect private property rights suffer dire fates.
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ztk2006 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Your statistics pit countries where the property rights of individuals are protected against countries where only the property rights of the state-corporation is protected. Naturally, in a capitalist context, "not protecting property rights" means ultra-capitalism: theft and corruption, performed through direct force rather than through legal force and the threat of deprivation. Your statistics are self-serving and meaningless to anyone but your ideologues. No where do you demonstrate what the implication is for societies with legally protected communal property rights and participatory political systems. I'm not interested in the statistical masturbation of right-wing think tanks. I'm interested in a just, free, and truly democratic society.
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million7 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
lol @ #democratize the economy, dumb people get to vote for the leader of the free world and now you want dumb people who watch dancing with the stars and could care less about this stuff to vote on the economy.
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ztk2006 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
People aren't dumb, but many people are apathetic (due to their lack of power and relevance), don't have access to educational institutions, and spend so much time working that they have little time or energy for self-education. Giving working people the democratic right to their workplaces could change a lot of that. Given the power, people do consistently elect to provide themselves with more time, power and education. Don't be classist and elitist, you're just some dumb kid on deviantart, after all, no better than me or someone who watches pop television and works a decent job.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
Do you really think you know better than the baker how he should bake? Do you think you know better than the inventor how he should invent? Do you really think you know better than the CEO of Boeing how Boeing should be run?
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ztk2006 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
No, but that's precisely the point. Everyone who works in the bakery should control it; not some owner or CEO. And everyone who needs food should have control over how food is distributed.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
Do you understand that in a capitalist system, you could set up a bakery that operates by those exact rules? There's nothing stopping you. So why don't you try that instead of trying to force everyone else to change?
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ztk2006 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, I do understand this. I am a co-owner of a worker-owned cooperative business. Worker-owned businesses are becoming more common, and it's a great direction to go. However, worker-owned businesses will not be able to undo the historical injustice that created our current distribution of power and wealth - and working people should not have to buy the economy away from the capitalists. We need the apartments we made, the tools we made, the land we worked, to return to common ownership. Capitalists stole it all, backed up by the state and its hypocritical "property rights". we can steal it back.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013
So who stole for you the house or apartment you live in?
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ztk2006 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I rent the apartment I live in, from someone who derives their income, through rent, from my labor. Capitalist property laws allow for property owners to create wealth by simply owning wealth - my labor power is stolen through rent by someone who does not work.
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RedAnarchist161 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
Very well done. Nice work.
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ztk2006 Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you!
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yehvdah Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
Excellent poster!
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